The Spawn Chunks 320: How Pale Does Your Garden Grow?

Oct 21, 2024 | podcast

Joel, and Jonny run down the latest bug fixes as Bundles Of Bravery nears a final release, then discuss multiple emails from the community about the Pale Garden, pale oak trees, and The Creaking.

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Joel

  • Satisfactory
    • Satisfactory has once again dominated the game time this week, creating a longing for Minecraft to have more up to date graphics, and lighting. The “shiny” of more recently developed games is real!
  • Minecraft
    • Looking seriously at the Create mod, and wondering what other complimentary mods – specifically performance based – may be good to pair with the Create experience.

Jonny

  • The Minecraft Survival Guide, Season 3
    • Planning the new city layout, using various colours of terracotta to mark out homes, civic buildings, shops, and roads.
  • Minecraft Bingo
    • There is a new beta of Minecraft Bingo for 1.21.2 Pre-release 5, which adds items like armadillo scutes, wolf armour, and light blue bundles to the bingo card.
    • Bundles provide a useful utility in Minecraft Bingo, giving players an inventory saving means to stash away items they may need later, thinking ahead is a must!

FROM: Niko
SUBJECT: Pale Garden Willow

Hi there!

I think the new Pale Garden biome could use a slightly more unique tree by leaning pale oak trees more towards a willow tree. To stay in line with the idea of a dark oak forest variant, this could be achieved by simply adding some droop to the leaf generation, or go the extra mile of making the trees slightly crooked. This would also match the pale oak sapling more.

Niko died, mauled by a creaking while judging a pale oak tree.

FROM: OrigamiMarie
SUBJECT: Willows And Creaks

Hello Jonny and Joel,

I keep thinking about The Pale Garden, and hoping that Mojang doesn’t miss the opportunity to make something really cool.

They could make good willow trees! Make the tops kinda rounded and use leaf blocks to make leaves that trail down to the ground in some places around the edge of the tree.  Stick the hanging moss under the edges of the tree crown and let a lot of it hang down to the ground.  Make the leaf blocks a really light, whitish green, like they’re actually mostly lichen.  When a river cuts through a Pale Garden biome, make the willows lean out over the water and extend their leaves down to the water.  I think this shape of willow tree would be prettier and creepier than the Pale Oak.

The Creaking is also such an opportunity! Regular mobs have good reason to all look the same, they’re patterned after animals, but the Creaking is a tree. Why not have multiple models so they can feel more like trees? You can’t actually hit them anyway, so their hitboxes don’t have to match their models.  

OrigamiMarie was distracted by modding willows into Minecraft, and died of Creakings in a background window.

FROM: Imperfect Imp
SUBJECT: Pale Garden Additions

Hi Pix, and Joel,

Since Minecraft Live I’ve been thinking about the Pale Garden. I agree with the common opinion that it lacks a unique detail. I liked Joel’s idea from episode 317 of the Creaking eye mushrooms. I’ve also seen people suggest other ideas for structures.

I’d like to propose Standing Stones. They’d look man-made, potentially with runes carved into them or flowing around them. The runes could even be in the unused Illager font since there seems to be a connection between the Illagers, and the Creaking. (Illagers flee from them.)

This would convey a bit of the man-made garden atmosphere, create interesting lore, and potentially create options for an Enchantment rework later on.

What do you think of this idea?

PS: Do you think player-grown pale oaks should be able to grow new hearts? Or should they be a limited resource only found in the biome?

Imperfect Imp died, but that’s fine because he’s built himself a graveyard in a Pale Garden.

FROM: Zing
SUBJECT: Colour Pop

Hi Pix, and Joel,

When recapping Minecraft Live, you mentioned how the Pale Garden is great for halloween districts. While I agree, I think the biome’s biggest strength is in its ability to create contrast.

I think the most effective builds in the Pale Garden won’t be gray, and brown as we’re used to, but instead will be filled with more vibrant, colorful materials, which we’ve conveniently gotten many of in recent updates! I draw parallels to the Color Pop technique in photography, where a background is grayed out around a colorful subject to make it pop more.

What do you think?

Zing built a bright blue tower in a sea of weeping angels, and the adventure continued.

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